Public Safety Committee
Rochester Hills
1000 Rochester Hills |
Drive |
Rochester Hills, MI 48309 |
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www.rochesterhills.org |
Minutes
Adam Alleman, Bryan Barnett, Ron Crowell, Louis Eble, Gary Elliot, Andy LeBlanc, Linda |
Raschke, Gerald Robbins, Andrew Roscoe, Bob Smith |
7:30 PM
1000 Rochester Hills Drive
Monday, March 14, 2005
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Raschke called the meeting to order at 7:35 PM.
ROLL CALL
Bryan Barnett, Linda Raschke, Gerald Robbins, Louis Eble and Gary Elliott
Present:
Non-Voting Members Present: Ron Crowell, Robert Smith, Adam Alleman, and Andrew |
Roscoe |
Non-Voting Members Absent: Andy LeBlanc |
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2005-0177
Regular Meeting - January 10, 2005
DRAFT Minutes.pdf; Resolution.pdf
A motion was made by Robbins, seconded by Elliott, that this matter be |
Approved. |
Resolved that the Public Safety Committee hereby approves the Minutes of the |
Regular Meeting of January 10, 2005 as presented. |
The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Barnett, Raschke, Robbins, Eble and Elliott
COMMUNICATIONS
Interim Chief Crowell informed the Committee that the interview process was taking |
place for the full-time firefighter position. |
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
2004-0028
Discussion of Five-Year Plan and Fire Response Time
011204 Req 5 Yr Plan & CEMS.pdf; 020204 CEMS Response Times & |
False Alarm Info.pdf; 2004 Bravo Staffing Statistics.pdf |
The Committee briefly discussed a process to develop a new Five Year Plan for the |
Rochester Hills Fire Department (RHFD) and noted the following points: |
* A new Five Year Plan would provide a direction and identify the needs for the RHFD. |
It would be an educational tool for the voters regarding any millage renewals or |
requests. |
* The proposed survey that will be sent to other municipal Fire Departments and will |
provide helpful information to develop a new Five Year Plan (also see File 2005-0170). |
* A new Five Year Plan should be a separate plan from any plan involving the |
contracted police services with the Oakland County Sheriff's Department (OCSD) for the |
Sub Station in Rochester Hills. |
Discussed
2005-0233
Discuss Police Millages
050905 Supplmtl Info - Memo Jenuwine - 3 scenarios.pdf; 033105 Memo |
Jenuwine.pdf; 2005 - OCSD Millage Analysis.pdf; 2005 - OCSD Millage |
Analysis R&E.pdf |
The Committee briefly discussed the current two (2) millages for the contracted police |
services from OCSD. The concensus, based on the Committee's past experience, was |
that any Fire and Police millage requests should be two (2) separate issues. If one of |
the two current Police millages expire in 2006, it would be prudent to begin plans as |
soon as possible to determine how to educate the residents. |
The Committee requested that Julie Jenuwine, Finance Director, be asked to make a |
presentation at the April Public Safety Committee regarding the following specific |
questions: |
1. What are the millage amounts [for both millages] for the Police and when are |
they due [to expire]. |
2. What do we need at a minimum to eliminate the General Fund subsidy. |
The Committee also discussed developing a financial comparison between a |
city-supported Police Department versus the current contracted services from OCSD. It |
could be an educational tool to show the residents what it costs to provide the current |
services. The Committee also noted that the start-up costs alone for a city-supported |
Police Department would be approximately $10 to $12 million dollars and that may or |
may not include liability and workers compensation insurance, etc. During the |
mid-1980's, the City, which was Avon Township at that time, discussed the possibility of |
starting a city-supported Police Department, but the idea was disbanded. |
Discussed
2005-0320
Discuss Public Safety Aids Program
The Committee discussed Public Safety Aids and noted the following points: |
* There could be collective bargaining agreement issues because of the contracted |
police services with OCSD. But if the City wanted to form a Public Safety Aid |
Department of its own, it should be outside of the contract with OCSD. |
* OCSD uses "reserve officers" which are similar to RHFD's "paid on call" (POC) |
firefighters. |
* The City of Troy uses Public Safety Aids for several things that may be feasible to do |
in Rochester Hills. |
Chairperson Raschke will contact Major Dammon Shields at 248.858.4970, Oakland |
County Sheriff's Office, 1201 N. Telegraph Road, for more information about the Public |
Safety Aids. Capt. Smith will provide the Committee with a packet of information from |
the City of Troy. |
Discussed
2005-0110
Monthly Report - Fire Chief
020705 Memo Crowell.pdf
Interim Chief Crowell discussed the 2004 Bravo (Ambulance) Staffing Statistics for the |
Rochester Hills Fire Department (RHFD) that included a report as requested by the |
Committee. He noted the following points: |
* The 2004 Bravo (Ambulance) Staffing Statistics were broken down annually. The |
2003 statistics distributed by the previous Fire Chief [Walterhouse] were broken down |
quarterly. |
* Council should begin receiving statistics on a monthly basis. |
* The 2004 response time with one (1) person responding has drastically improved |
especially for the night shift. The improvement is due to each fire station being required |
to have two (2) people assigned as a medical team one (1) night a week. Most stations |
have enough staff to cover two (2) nights a week. |
* In addition, the RHFD has one (1) ambulance staffed with two (2) POC Firefighters for |
the day shift which is 6:00 AM to 6:00 PM. There will soon be two (2) staffed |
ambulances during the day shift which will also improve response times. A station will |
not be "toned" until both units are tied up. |
* Recently, there have been approximately six (6) POC firefighters that have received |
their Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) licenses and are available during the day |
shift. |
Interim Chief Crowell presented an update on the RHFD that included a report dated |
February 7, 2005, as requested by the Committee. He discussed the following points: |
* The RHFD is planning to hire two (2) basic EMTs to staff an ambulance during the day |
shift in addition to the current day shift employees. This will allow them to function with |
one (1) ambulance from 6:00 AM to 8:00 AM, two (2) ambulances from 8:00 AM to 4:00 |
PM, and one (1) ambulance from 4:00 PM to 6:00 PM. |
* The rationale behind sending two (2) units [an engine and an ambulance] to one (1) |
call is that many times an Advance Life Support (ALS) call can turn into a Basic Life |
Support (BLS) call, which frees up the paramedics to run another call. If an ambulance |
only goes to a call that turns into a BLS call, it is tied up and cannot go to an ALS call. |
* The RHFD received permission from the Oakland County Medical Control Board |
(OCMCB) to run two (2) two-person ALS units and one (1) one-person ALS unit as |
needed. |
* The rationale behind sending a fire engine staffed with paramedics to a medical call |
instead of sending an ambulance is so that the fire engine will be in service to go to a |
fire call if needed. |
* The POCs that are on the ambulances can be part of both divisions: Emergency |
Medical Service (EMS) and Fire; or can be part of EMS only; but are not part of Fire |
only. |
* It is current practice to have an ambulance staged at the scene of a fire and for police |
action. It can be a BLS or an ALS ambulance, however, it is preferred to be an ALS |
ambulance with the understanding that the ALS ambulance can be substituted with a |
BLS ambulance if needed. |
* Interim Chief Crowell gave an example of how well the North Oakland County Mutual |
Aid Agreement works between the fire departments when handling multiple calls in a |
very short period of time. The RHFD also has a mutual aid agreement with the Shelby |
Township Fire Department and a verbal understanding for mutual aid with the |
Washington Township Fire Department. |
* The RHFD has implemented a "call-back" policy regarding structure fires for local |
full-time firefighters on the day shift who may be off duty. Some of the "out-station" |
firefighters will be trained on Truck 1 so they respond to Station 1 if dispatched. The |
full-time firefighters that live outside of Rochester Hills will also be included and will |
receive one (1) hour's pay if they respond to the "call-back" but were not needed. |
The Committee thanked Interim Chief Crowell for his report and presentation. |
Discussed
NEW BUSINESS
2005-0170
Discuss Survey to Municipal Fire Departments
Compiled Survey Responses.pdf; Survey List - Municipal Fire Depts.pdf; |
Response letter to Fire Chiefs.pdf; Auburn Hills FD Survey.pdf; Brandon |
Twp FD Survey.pdf; Chesterfield Twp FD Survey.pdf; Farmington Hills FD |
Survey.pdf; Independence Twp FD Survey.pd |
The Committee discussed the 1st draft questions and made the following suggestions: |
* Include a question that asks what POCs are paid at other Fire Departments and what |
types of incentive programs are offered to improve POC retainment and/or response to |
calls. |
* Expand Question #9 to include population density, the number of school buildings |
services, residential makeup, the number of expressways that run through the |
community, and what other police services are provided, i.e. State Police, etc. |
* Re-word Question #3 to read "What is your initial apparatus response to a medical |
emergency". |
Chairperson Raschke will forward the revisions to the Clerk's Office and the final survey |
will be reviewed at the April Public Safety Committee Meeting. |
Interim Chief Crowell commented that the City of Troy volunteer firefighters receive a |
pension. However, a salary is paid to each station which can use the money for items |
that benefit the entire station, i.e. cabins, pontoon boats, dinners, etc. RHFD has |
recently furnished some of their stations with big-screen TVs, DVDs, VCRs, |
PlayStations, and more durable furniture as incentives for POCs. He also noted that the |
hourly pay rate for POCs was increased to $12.50 per hour. |
Discussed
YOUTH COMMENTS
Mr. Roscoe commented that school proms are coming up which may be a time of more |
alcohol related incidents. Capt. Smith agreed and noted that school graduations and |
proms do place more strain on the OCSD, and they do enforce a "zero tolerance" policy. |
Capt. Smith also informed the Committee that in the past, OCSD was granted funds |
from the Traffic Improvement Association (TIA) to team up with the Michigan State |
Police to respond to alcohol related parties. However, the information used to locate the |
parties was not reliable and therefore did not warrant the costs associated with the |
overtime pay. |
ANY OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Robbins repeated his suggestion from the February Public Safety Committee |
Meeting that the Committee request Mr. Dan Casey, Manager of Economic |
Development for the City's Planning and Development Department, to be invited to a |
Public Safety Committee Meeting to discuss the possibility of capturing Tax Increment |
Finance (TIF) funding from the Local Development Finance Authority (LDFA) zones and |
Federal SmartZones to help fund police and fire protection for the City. |
Mr. Elliott requested that Interim Chief Crowell provide a basic definition sheet that |
describes fire calls and fire equipment apparatus if possible. |
Chairperson Raschke informed the Committee of a court room shooting in Atlanta, |
Georgia between a prisoner and a judge. Capt. Smith noted that OCSD is very |
proactive regarding courtroom security due to the experience with high-profile trials in |
the past. |
Chairperson Raschke briefly mentioned a resolution that was passed at a City Council |
meeting regarding incident pagers for Council members. Interim Chief Crowell noted |
that he is willing to provide whatever is requested and explained that it would require the |
Supervisor of Communications to rework the pagers which would take time. He also |
advised that if a pager is rewired to received all incidents calls, it may "go off" every five |
(5) minutes. Chairperson Raschke requested that Interim Chief Crowell send a memo to |
Council members stating something to the effect that "whoever wants it in their pager |
can have it in their pager". |
NEXT MEETING DATE
Monday, April 4, 2005 - 7:30 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairperson Raschke adjourned the |
meeting at 8:54 PM. |
Minutes were prepared by Denise Mertz. |
Minutes were approved as presented at the June 6, 2005 Regular Public Safety |
Committee Meeting. |