Community Development & Viability / |
Financial Services / Public Safety |
Joint Committee |
Rochester Hills
1000 Rochester Hills |
Drive |
Rochester Hills, MI 48309 |
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Minutes
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT & VIABILITY COMMITTEE: |
Ed Anzek, Scott Cope, Frank Cosenza, Jim Duistermars, Greg Hooper, Kristina Hurst, |
Michael Kaszubski, Kelley Kosuda, James Rosen, Roger Rousse, Pratyusha Yalamanchi |
FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE: |
Erik Ambrozaitis, Donald Atkinson, Kurt Dawson, Barbara Holder, Angie Jackson, Julie |
Jenuwine, Jonathan Rea, Ravi Yalamanchi, Richard Yoon |
Ron Crowell, Jim Duistermars, Gary Elliot, Barbara Holder, Andy LeBlanc, Adam |
Lomasney, Paras Patel, Linda Raschke, Gerald Robbins, Bob Smith |
6:30 PM
1000 Rochester Hills Drive
Wednesday, September 27, 2006
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Holder called the Joint Community Development & Viability, Financial |
Services and Public Safety Committee meeting to order at 6:45 PM. |
ROLL CALL
Linda Raschke, Greg Hooper, Barbara Holder, Michael Kaszubski, Frank |
Cosenza, Erik Ambrozaitis and Ravi Yalamanchi |
Present:
Jim Duistermars, Gerald Robbins, James Rosen, Donald Atkinson, Gary Elliott |
and Jonathan Rea |
Absent:
Community Development & Viability Non-Voting Members Present: Ed Anzek, |
Kristina Hurst, Kelley Kosuda |
Community Development & Viability Non-Voting Members Absent: Scott Cope, Roger |
Rousse, Pratyusha Yalamanchi |
Financial Services Non-Voting Members Present: Julie Jenuwine |
Financial Services Non-Voting Members Absent: Kurt Dawson, Angie Jackson, |
Richard Yoon |
Public Safety Non-Voting Members Present: Chief Ron Crowell, Captain Robert Smith, |
Adam Lomasney, Paras Patel |
Public Safety Non-Voting Members Absent: Andy LeBlanc |
- Jane Leslie, City Clerk, |
- John Staran, City Attorney, |
- Bob Grace, MIS Director, |
- Gerard Verschueren, Citizen Representative, Administration & Information Services |
Committee |
- Deanna Hilbert, Citizen Representative, Leisure Activities Committee |
Members Rosen and Kinker provided previous notice they would be unable to attend |
and asked to be excused. |
COMMUNICATIONS
It was noted that the following resignation letters were received from Citizen |
Representatives: |
* Mr. Rea has resigned from the Financial Services Committee |
* Mr. Shane has resigned from Leisure Activities Committee |
The resignation letters will be forwarded to the next City Council meeting for |
acceptance. |
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2006-0710
Special Joint Meeting - July 22, 2006
Min Joint 072206.pdf
A motion was made by Yalamanchi, seconded by Hooper, that this matter be |
Approved. |
Resolved that the Joint Community Development & Viability, Financial Services |
and Public Safety Committee hereby approves the Minutes of the Special Joint |
Meeting of July 22, 2006 as presented. |
The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Yalamanchi, Kaszubski, Raschke, Hooper, Cosenza, Ambrozaitis and |
Holder |
Absent:
Rea, Rosen, Robbins, Elliott, Atkinson and Duistermars
It was noted that the order of discussion was changed to the following: |
PUBLIC COMMENT
Chairperson Holder asked if any residents would like to speak about topics not on the |
agenda. |
Mr. Verschueren questioned the status of opening Tienken Road through Auburn Hills. |
Mayor Barnett reported that the Auburn Hills City Council voted 4 to 3 to remove the |
barrier and they are working on an aggressive timetable which should have the road |
opened by November 15, 2006. |
Ms. Hilbert asked why the decision was made now to take down the barrier on Tienken |
Road. |
Mayor Barnett highlighted factors that Auburn Hills Council members considered which |
included the following: |
* Dutton Road is now open as another east / west corridor through Auburn Hills |
* Walton Boulevard is scheduled next year to be widened through Auburn Hills |
* A traffic study was done to show that removing the barrier on Tienken Road would |
have a minor impact on traffic increase in Auburn Hills |
* Residents in Auburn Hills were evenly divided on the decision to remove the barrier on |
Tienken Road. |
Member Duistermars entered at 7:08 PM |
Jim Duistermars, Linda Raschke, Greg Hooper, Barbara Holder, Michael |
Kaszubski, Frank Cosenza, Erik Ambrozaitis and Ravi Yalamanchi |
Present:
Gerald Robbins, James Rosen, Donald Atkinson, Gary Elliott and Jonathan Rea
Absent:
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
2006-0439
Discussion of Police Millage
060706 Referral Notice to PS.pdf; 0439 Agenda Report.pdf
Chairperson Holder opened the floor for discussion on the Police Millage issue. |
Ms. Julie Jenuwine, Finance Director, gave a brief background of the difference between |
a Voted dedicated millage versus a Charter millage and noted the following: |
* A voted dedicated millage would have an expiration term to coincide with the Special |
Police I millage or for a shorter duration. It would require approximately 2.2 mills overall, |
but would need to be voted again before expiring. |
* A Charter millage would typically have no expiration date and would possibly |
be-examined in approximately 20 years if the Charter is re-examined. It would also |
require a higher number of approximately 3.6 mills to include adding 13 deputies, the |
estimated Headlee reductions, conservative taxable values, and possible increases in |
the Oakland County Sheriff Department (OCSD) contract. |
Mr. Lee Zendel, 1575 Dutton, questioned how the existing Police millage that goes |
through 2014 would affect asking for a Charter millage. Mr. Staran, City Attorney noted |
there is some uncertainty whether a prior vote of residents can be undone by a Charter |
millage which would be voted on by the residents. Currently there is no State law that |
speaks to this situation. Opinions from the Attorney General are nonbinding. However, |
the Attorney General's office reviews charter amendments before they are presented to |
residents for the voting process. Caution should be used regarding levying a millage |
that could be challenged. |
Capt. Smith explained that the additional 13 deputies is a conservative assessment for |
the next 15 to 20 years. Ms. Jenuwine offered to rework a different millage request to |
reflect a non-conservative approach if that was the desire of this Committee. |
Member Hooper offered the following suggestion: |
* To have an election in the spring of 2007 to renew Police II millage for seven (7) more |
years so it would sunset at the same time as Police I. The in the fall of 2007 have an |
election for a new Police III millage for 7 years for the additional thirteen (13) officers |
and eliminate the General Fund Subsidy. If they pass, then in 2014, offer the residents |
a Charter millage for police needs at that time. |
The Committee discussed Mr. Hooper's suggestion and noted the following: |
* A November 2007 election would have a high turnout, but would also be risky. If |
voters did not pass the renewal, there would not be another opportunity for an election |
before the renewal expired in 2007. |
* If Police I and Police II expired in 2014, there may be a need to factor in contract |
negotiations with OCSD and also the projected Headlee rollbacks. |
* A 3.6 millage request may be an uphill battle. It has to be the right balance between |
the costs and what the residents are willing to pay. |
Mayor Barnett encouraged the Joint members to discuss all ideas and that Council |
needs to decide which idea to move forward because time is of the essence. |
Member Yalamanchi explained his apprehension for a tax increases in the next two (2) |
to three (3) years because of the current Michigan economy and people losing their |
jobs. He suggested that his first preference would be to create a plan that could sustain |
the current police services for the next three (3) to four (4) years in hopes that the |
Michigan economy will turn around. He suggested that perhaps Ms. Jenuwine could |
provide a financial projection of the next three (3) to four (4) years on how to sustain the |
current police services relative to new developments, revenues, etc. that may be in the |
pipeline. |
Ms. Ann Mathison, 749 Cambridge Dr. suggested exploring the possibility of forming |
a partnership with the City of Rochester since they have budgetary struggles too. |
Member Ambrozaitis reported recent conversations with various local representatives |
regarding regionalization of city and municipal services as a way for cities to grow into |
the future. |
Member Yalamanchi stated that city governments will be faced with downsizing in the |
future just as the private sector is facing today. Local officials must be innovative and |
proactive by looking at different alternatives such as regionalization. He suggested his |
second preference would be for the Mayors and Department Directors of neighboring |
municipalities to have a dialog and explore ways to partner and combine services to |
reduce costs. |
Chairperson Holder reported that there has been positive dialog through the Sister |
City/Auburn Hills Committee, but have not been successful with the Sister |
City/Rochester Committee. |
Mr. Paul Miller, 1021 Harding agreed that innovative and creative ways of |
intra-community services could be very beneficial. There may be an issue of |
intra-community cooperation but there are ways at reducing costs that should be |
considered. |
Chief Crowell briefly explained the cost-savings mutual aid agreements that exist |
between neighboring fire departments for EMS services as well as fire training. |
Capt. Smith stated that a contracted police department represents good government at |
its best because of economies of scale and reduction of duplicated services. |
Member Duistermars advised that a cautious approach should be used when thinking |
about combining departments of different cities. |
Member Yalamanchi stated that his third preference would be to do a Charter |
amendment taking the 2.5 mills dedicated to Fire and adding it to the cost for Police to |
create one combined millage for 4.7 for Police and Fire. |
Mr. Zendel stated the reality is telling the residents of this City that they are undertaxed |
compared to the surrounding communities. |
It was noted that the Older Persons Commission (OPC) and Rochester-Avon Recreation |
Authority (RARA) are good examples of one organization providing services to three (3) |
communities. Currently there are discussions regarding the creation of a district library |
in lieu of the Rochester Hills Public Library. |
Member Cosenza stated that someone has to define the services that could be |
combined. |
Member Raschke questioned how to sell a new millage proposal in light of all the failed |
millages in the past. |
THE COMMITTEE RECESSED FROM 8:48 PM TO 9:07 PM |
Chairperson Holder cautioned that residents are looking at the "wants versus needs" of |
the City. An example is the Museum and the Environmental Center. Many residents |
feel that the City should not fund them. |
Member Yalamanchi suggested that the Museum and Environmental Center could |
become non-profit regional entities over time where neighboring residents can have |
ownership towards them. He further indicated that in tough economic times the question |
is asked should the City fund a museum or police services. |
It was suggested that all services provided by the City should be examined and |
prioritized. |
A motion was made by Raschke, seconded by Hooper, that this matter be |
Recommended for Approval to the City Council Regular Meeting. |
Whereas the Joint Members of the Community Development & Viability, Financial |
Services and Public Safety Committees have discussed the matter of the expiring |
Police II Millage at their meeting on July 22, 2006 and September 27, 2006, and |
Resolved that the Joint Members recommend the following proposal be |
presented for discussion at a future City Council Meeting: |
1. Renew the expiring Police II Millage for seven years or whatever time |
appropriate so that it sunsets with Police I Millage, |
2. Create a Police III Millage proposal for an appropriate millage rate that would |
equal the subsidy from the General Fund used to fund 13 OCSD deputies and |
sunset with the Police I & II millages, |
3. Suggested election dates are May 2007 for the renewal of Police I and |
November 2007 for the new Police III. |
The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Yalamanchi, Kaszubski, Raschke, Hooper, Cosenza, Ambrozaitis, Holder |
and Duistermars |
Absent:
Rea, Rosen, Robbins, Elliott and Atkinson
Enactment No: RES0210-2006 |
NEW BUSINESS
2006-0708
Discussion Regarding the Possible Reinstatement of Rochester Hills Police |
Liaison Program with the Avondale School District |
Agenda Summary.pdf; Request Avondale Schools 071906.pdf; Memo |
Jenuwine 071706.pdf |
Chairperson Holder introduced Mr. Steve Sucher, Board President of the Avondale |
School District. |
Capt. Smith offered a brief history regarding the program which included the following: |
* Avondale School District had a program with one officer from the Auburn Hills Police |
Department and one deputy from the Oakland County Sheriff's Department (OCSD). |
Three years ago, there was a unilateral decision made to discontinue the OCSD deputy |
but maintain the Auburn Hills Police officer. The district has come to the conclusion that |
one officer can no longer carry the workload and would like to reinstate the OCSD |
deputy. |
* When the OCSD contract was discontinued with the Avondale School District, the |
deputy remained in the Rochester Hills substation budget and was integrated into the |
shift work. However, if the position is to be reinstated for the Avondale School District, |
then two (2) things must be considered: |
1. A deputy position cannot be removed from the current substation shift work |
without an increase in overtime to cover scheduled days off such as weekends, |
vacations, sick leaves, etc. |
2. Avondale School District paid 12% toward an OCSD deputy, while Rochester |
Schools pay 19.7%. Parity should be discussed. |
* It is difficult to utilize part-time OCSD employees because of a historical record that |
the liaison position was a bargaining member's job. |
Joint Committee Members commenced discussion which included the following: |
* The City's budget would increase approximately $85,000 to reinstate a deputy to the |
Avondale School District. This financial model would be different than the other police |
liaison programs that are currently in place. |
* The school liaison officer's main role is to provide age-appropriate education for |
prevention and role modeling. As society has changed, the officer's role is being |
stretched to go beyond the administration's disciplinary process and includes other |
processes such as investigations, meetings with parents, and probate court actions, etc. |
* The prevention of short-term criminal activity in schools has a positive effect and is |
money well spent, but is something that cannot be quantified. |
* The shared cost of an additional officer was discussed. |
* Currently the cost for the officers for the Rochester Schools Police Liaison Program is |
funded by 19.6% from Rochester Schools, 10% from the City of Rochester, 19% from |
Oakland Township and 51.4% from the City of Rochester Hills. |
* A compromise in funding must be met to avoid an increase in the City's budget. |
Mr. Sucher stated that the current Auburn Hills Police officer covers the Avondale |
School buildings that lie within the City of Auburn Hills. Avondale Schools does share |
the cost with the Auburn Hills Police Department, but he did not know the figure. He |
offered to provide that information for discussion at a future Council meeting. He also |
mentioned that the school population of Avondale School District is comprised of |
students not only from Auburn Hills and Rochester Hills, but included Troy and |
Bloomfield Township. |
The Committee was not ready to make a recommendation at this time, but would like to |
this topic to the Financial Services Committee for further discussion. |
A motion was made by Ambrozaitis, seconded by Raschke, that this matter be |
Approved and Referred to the Financial Services Committee. |
Resolved that the matter of Possible Reinstatement of the Rochester Hills Police |
Liaison Program with the Avondale School District be further discussed at the |
next Financial Services Committee. |
The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Yalamanchi, Kaszubski, Raschke, Hooper, Cosenza, Ambrozaitis, Holder |
and Duistermars |
Absent:
Rea, Rosen, Robbins, Elliott and Atkinson
2006-0709
Discussion Regarding the Advisability of Dissolving the City Council |
Communication Committees |
The Joint Committee Members briefly discussed the pros and cons of dissolving the |
Communication Committees which included: |
* Items are discussed at the Committee level and then re-discussed at the Council level |
thus causing redundancy. |
* The Clerk's office is short-staffed and Committee minutes are creating a burden. |
The Committee consensus was to discuss this further at the next Administration & |
Information Services Committee meeting. |
Discussed
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
2006-0438
Discussion of Parks Millage
Referral Notice.pdf; Millage memo 061906.pdf; 0438 Minutes.pdf
No discussion.
No Action
2005-0847
Continued SAD Discussions in Conjunction with Millage Discussions
Agenda Summary.pdf; Referral Notice SAD.pdf; 060806 FS Dft Min.pdf; |
0847 Resolution.pdf; 0847 Minutes.pdf |
No discussion.
No Action
2006-0201
City Millage Summary - Expiring Dedicated Millages
Agenda Summary.pdf; Millage Summary.pdf; Suppl Info - Financial |
Policies.pdf; Suppl Info - Millage Summary.pdf; Suppl Info - Atty |
opinion.pdf; Suppl Info - Tax levies.pdf; 0201 Minutes.pdf |
No discussion.
No Action
2006-0419
Referral from City Council to Committees regarding millage discussion.
Agenda Summary.pdf; 0419 Resolution.pdf; 0419 Minutes.pdf
No discussion.
No Action
NEXT MEETING DATE
No discussion.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairperson Holder adjourned the meeting |
at 9:57 PM. |
Minutes prepared by Denise Mertz. |
Minutes were approved as presented at the April 11, 2007 Regular City Council |
Meeting. |