Leisure Activities Committee
Rochester Hills
1000 Rochester Hills |
Drive |
Rochester Hills, MI 48309 |
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Minutes
Saran Ahluwalia, John Dalton, Jim Duistermars, Mike Hartner, Brenton Kinker, Kelley |
Kosuda, Linda Raschke, Steven Swann, Suzanne White |
6:00 PM
1000 Rochester Hills Drive
Monday, October 18, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Duistermars called the meeting to order at 6:07 PM.
ROLL CALL
Jim Duistermars, John Dalton and Suzanne White
Present:
Linda Raschke and Steven Swann
Absent:
Non-Voting Members Present: Mike Hartner, Saran Ahluwalia, Brenton Kinker and |
Kelley Kosuda |
Non-Voting Members Absent: None |
Committee Member Raschke provided previous notice she would be late for the |
meeting. |
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
None were presented.
COMMUNICATIONS
2004-0859
Memo from Clerk's Office - Amendments to Bylaws - Order of Business
Memo Galeczka - Bylaws Amdmts 092204.pdf; LA Bylaws Final |
09-22-04.pdf |
A motion was made by Dalton, seconded by White, that this matter be Received |
and Filed. |
The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Duistermars, Dalton and White
Absent:
Raschke and Swann
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
2004-0137
Discuss Clinton River Trail Bridge and Intersection Improvement Project
Mr. Hartner recapped the project noting the following: |
* The project has been on-going for almost two (2) years and consists of four (4) major |
components: |
- Replace the bridge behind Rochester College that spans over the Clinton River |
- Add decking and hand rails to the bridge behind City Hall |
- Add a pedestrian safety island at Avon and Livernois Roads that will have will have |
pavement markings and signage |
- Make improvements to every major intersection in Rochester Hills to allow trail |
users to cross major roads in a safe manner |
* The project is estimated to cost approximately $900,000. The City has secured a |
grant from the Michigan Department of Transportation (MDOT) for $400,000 and |
obtained two (2) years of CIP funds at $150,000 each. |
* MDOT has approved the project drawings. |
* The bids have been opened with a low bid of $897,124. Other bids were $924,000, |
$927,000 and $967,000. |
* The low bid agreement will be brought forward to City Council in November for |
approval. |
* The bridge work can begin over the winter. The project has to be completed by June |
30, 2005 or there is a fine of $900 per day for every day the contractor is late. |
Discussed
(Member Raschke entered at 6:40 PM) |
Jim Duistermars, John Dalton, Linda Raschke and Suzanne White
Present:
Steven Swann
Absent:
2004-0659
Discuss Possible Increase of Park Fees - Motor Vehicle Entry Fees
0585 Resolution from Council dtd 07-28-04.pdf; Chapter 54 Fees - Parks |
and Rec.pdf; Dept. Recommendation dtd 10-12-04 .pdf; Motor Vehicle |
Entry Fee Survey 09-2004.pdf; 0659 Draft Resolution dtd 10-12-04.pdf |
The committee discussed this matter concurrently with Legislative File #2004-0881 - |
Sports Field Rental Fees. |
A motion was made by White, seconded by Raschke, that this matter be |
Approved. |
Whereas, the current motor vehicle entry fees to the Rochester Hills parks were |
raised significantly in 2000; |
Whereas, the current motor vehicle entry fee schedule is comparable to other |
regional parks; and |
Whereas, an increase at this time could result in reduced park revenue, as |
visitors would be more inclined to use less expensive regional parks; |
Now, Therefore Be It Resolved, that the Leisure Activities Committee |
recommends that the motor vehicle entry fee schedule for the Rochester Hills |
parks remains unchanged for 2005. |
The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Duistermars, Raschke and White
Nay:
Dalton
Absent:
Swann
NEW BUSINESS
2004-0881
Discuss Possible Increase of Park Fees - Sports Field Rental Fees
Dept. Recommendation dtd 10-12-04.pdf; 2003 Soccer Events.pdf; 2003 |
Baseball Softball Game Practices.pdf; Sports Facility Fees 2005 Proposal |
dtd 06-15-04.pdf; Field Rental Fees 2005 Proposal dtd 06-09-04.pdf; |
Borden Field Maint Costs dtd 05-25-04.pdf; 088 |
The Committee discussed this matter concurrently with Legislative File #2004-0659 - |
Motor Vehicle Entry Fees. The following points were made: |
* All revenues for parks go into the General Fund. Parks are not self-supporting. The |
City does not have a millage for parks. |
* The Parks Department philosophy has been to not burden just the people who "come |
through the door" with the total costs of the parks. The parks are there for everyone to |
enjoy, in addition to providing an intrinsic value of open space for Rochester Hills. The |
extra costs incurred should be born by the "users" of extra services. For example: the |
ball players pay a proportional share of the actual direct costs associated with using the |
fields. However, they do not pay for the additional items like the playground equipment |
or the parking lot which are costs incurred over the life of the park. |
* The parks use a car counter along with a formula to calculate attendance. In 2001, |
Bloomer Park had 108,000 users. In 2002, the Veledrome was opened and the number |
of users increased by 32% to 143,000. In 2003, the users increased by 25% to 179,000 |
* Field usage fees have not been raised in ten (10) years. The Parks Department has |
been advising field users that while a fee increase is not being advocated, it will be |
coming and to prepare for it. Market factors could affect field usage. For example: if |
Suburban Softball closes, people might decide to join another local organization. Also, if |
fees are raised significantly, attendance could fall off and defeat the increase. |
* Fees should be reviewed to ensure they are covering "true costs". For example: the |
costs for lights should include electricity, replacing bulbs, installation, etc. |
* Rochester Hills resident, Mr. Carl Schmidt, offered the following comments: |
- Mr. Schmidt is a long time user of the parks |
- $25 is good value if you use the parks often |
- May be better to concentrate on additional fields for a revenue source |
rather than vehicle permit fees |
- Need to look at where you can raise the fee and not impact park |
- Three adjacent communities, Shelby Township, Troy and Auburn Hills, do |
not charge for park usage. For a short drive, residents can use those parks |
* Soccer fields usage time is determined by a lottery system; this year, for the first |
time, peak times for baseball were also determined by a lottery system. |
* Currently the Department proposed fee increase is $5 resulting in $11,000 in |
revenues. By increasing the fee to $10 for the same number of games would double |
increase the revenue to $22,000. |
* A graduated increase over three (3) years: $5 in year one; $7.50 in year two and $10 |
in year three could be considered so teams would have time to incorporate the increase |
in fees into their charges. |
* It was suggested that the youth representatives encourage students to use the park to |
help increase park attendance. |
* There is a need to increase public awareness of the parks. |
* Soccer field labor costs are high because full-time personnel maintain the fields as |
opposed to part-time personnel. This results because soccer season runs longer than |
baseball season and the Parks Department does not have as many part-time |
employees in the spring and fall as it has in the summer months. |
* It was suggested that the City obtain corporate sponsors for the scoreboard. It was |
noted that the scoreboard originally cost $1,500 and the City now receives $1,500 a |
year for the scoreboard at the red field. Otherwise the City would need full-time staff to |
operate and maintain the scoreboard. |
The Committee reviewed the proposed changes to the Sport Facilities Fees as follows: |
* Resident rate from $35 to $45 |
* Non-resident rate from $50 to $60 |
* Adult resident rate $70 to $80 |
* Adult non-resident rate $100 to $110 |
* Cost would be pro-rated based on field size |
Discussion commenced regarding the difference between lighting for soccer fields and |
baseball fields including the following points: |
* Charge for lighting the soccer fields is $20 per hour, which includes the parking lot |
lights. The cost is $40 per soccer game because the soccer field is used for two (2) |
hours. |
* Actual cost of the lights is $11.68 per hour. |
* Charge for baseball fields is $10 per hour because there are less fixtures and bulbs |
than the soccer lights. In addition, the soccer games are held early and late in the |
season and lighting is needed. |
It was noted that the City needs to find a way to decrease the burden of the cost of the |
parks for the taxpayers. Last year, the City received $5,147 in revenue for lighting and |
paid Detroit Energy (DTE) $5,858 resulting in a loss of approximately $700. |
A motion was made by Raschke, seconded by White, that this matter be |
Approved. |
Whereas, the current field usage fees for Rochester Hills Parks have been |
unchanged for the past 10 years; |
Whereas, the costs for maintaining and scheduling these fields have increased |
substantially over this 10-year period; and |
Whereas, strong demand for our well-maintained sports fields continues to grow; |
Now, Therefore Be It Resolved, that the Leisure Activities Committee |
recommends that the Rochester Hills City Council approve the field usage fee |
increases for 2005 in full size fields and by a prorated amuont for smaller fields on |
a base calculation of a $10 increase; |
Be It Further Resolved, that the field lighting rates be approved at an increase of |
$5 per hour. |
The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Duistermars, Dalton, Raschke and White
Absent:
Swann
YOUTH COMMENTS
Ms. Kosuda reported that she has surveyed her family and friends regarding the |
preferred trail surface they would like on the City's portion of the Clinton River Trail. She |
and her mother have also hiked neighboring trails to study their surfaces. She has |
received more opinions in favor of an asphalt surface than the other two (2) types. |
The Committee commenced a general discussion regarding the three (3) trail surface |
types currently being surveyed. Mr. Hartner reported that the Friends of the Clinton |
River Trail have almost completed their analysis of their Internet survey. He will invite |
them to the November Leisure Activities Committee meeting to present their findings. |
Ms. Kosuda also reported that several young teens have mentioned to her that they |
would like a place in the city to gather with their friends outside of school where they can |
socialize. |
The Committee commenced a general discussion regarding where they gathered as |
young teens. It was also mentioned that there had been attempts made in past years to |
create a "teen center" but have failed. |
Chairman Duistermars thanked Ms. Kosuda for her comments. |
ANY OTHER BUSINESS
None was presented.
NEXT MEETING DATE
Monday, November 15, 2004 - 6:00 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Chairperson Duistermars adjourned the |
meeting at 8:00 PM. |
Minutes were prepared by Denise Mertz. |
Minutes were approved as amended at the January 24, 2005 Regular Leisure Activities |
Committee Meeting. |